Pleiadians & Star Seeds

Are you a Starseed? A soul from the Pleiades living a human life on Earth? Could humanity be the descendants of an ancient extraterrestrial race—or the result of cosmic genetic engineering? And did Stone really meet an Intergalactic General at a local fair?

In this week's episode of Xander & Stone, we venture deep into the world of the Pleiadians, exploring alien races, abduction stories, close encounters, cosmic conspiracies, and the enduring question: are we truly alone in the universe?

As always, we tackle the mysteries with curiosity, humour, and more than a few laughs along the way.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:11

I the second time.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 0:14

Because the first time it's really focused on Pleiadians. Pleiadians. Um, and then I really got into the starseed part. So what I was thinking was, because I imagine going through the Pleiadian that you did a lot of Pleiadian research.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

I did Pleiadian research. I also touched on the starseed stuff. So I think we probably both ended up at the Gaia website, probably, I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_04 0:34

Yeah, that was one of the websites. That's really good.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Yeah. So I did uh I've got some stuff on the Pleiadians and the Pleiades in general, and like the Pleiades in folklore and literature, a bit of the uh information on people who have had encounters with people from the Pleiadians or the Nordic aliens from the Pleiadians. And I've Oh, I don't have any of the encounters really have one, but I think bits and pieces from other cultures, and then through looking at the Pleiadians and Plei Palladians, it's such a fucking difficult thing to do. Pleiadians. Why are we struggling with saying Pleiadians?

SPEAKER_04 1:10

I was saying it right the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

Pleiadians. So like a plie and ballet with the D's at the end. Pleiadians. He said, as he Pleiadians. If we did video, people would know that I'm now busy doing my plie arms.

SPEAKER_04 1:21

Um so the difference is now I'm confident about it. Before I used to say Pleiadians or whatever. I would say or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

We could we could just call them the Nordic aliens because that's the other thing that they're called, or the Nordic folk. No, we can't call them the Nordic folk because those would be or we could just pronunciate it correctly. We could just say Pleiadians. We could say Pleiadians. That would be like humans.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

That would be okay too. Or Pleiadians. But yeah, I also got into the stars.

SPEAKER_04 1:48

I don't want to offend our star people.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

We don't know, and you know, because they are living among us, and they're huge fans of the podcast. They are. Because, you know, I mean, that's how radio waves work. And when we put things onto the internet and they're broadcast out there, somewhere in the Pleiades cluster right now, someone's like, fuck, these guys are funny. Um, you know, 500 light years away.

SPEAKER_04 2:10

But it is funny because my mom did say a few weeks ago when I was talking to her, she goes, Have you and Sander? That's how she talks. Have you and Sandra considered the possibility that one day the aliens could be listening to your podcast? It was like, oh, I really hadn't thought about it.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

That's pretty much the reason why we're doing our podcast, is because we're because we're trying to just reach out to the other terrestrials, the extraterrestrials.

SPEAKER_04 2:32

I I did not know that that was the motive here. I've had it wrong the whole time. You told me it was gonna be fun. You did not tell me there was an agenda.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

We're trying to represent humanity in its best and wittiest form with as much we're trying to give them the full range of like human like communication. So everybody's all like, we must represent ourselves as like the human race. And we're like, no, we're fucking sarcastic and witty and bitchy, and we're all of these things. Some aliens, the aliens, the aliens need to know that. They need to know authentic human experience, none of that gold record. This is what we look like rubbish and Mozart playing.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

Or sending our DNA across the DNA.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Well, I mean, come on, send them some sarcasm for fuck's sake. Let them get to know us. Okay, so what did what did you find out about the Pleiadians? Tell us about what you know about Pleiadians. Oh, by the way, this is recording? This is the stone, yeah. I was just gonna introduce you. So your stone.

SPEAKER_05 3:28

Oh and yours the under. I know that's the first one.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Before we even go that far, I want to tell all of our listeners. That's the sound of my phone being irritating. I want to tell all of our listeners that this past week was a very special day. Um, on the 5th of December, somebody did another revolution around the sun, and it was your birthday. It was silence.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Stand awkward silence.

SPEAKER_04 3:59

It is. You know, I don't like to just celebrate it. You know, for years, Sagittarians have it rough because for years, you know, you get those birthday presents that are from under the Christmas tree. So you know you're just one Christmas present short now, or you get the Christmas cake instead of the birthday cake.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

So as I got older, Christmas cake and happy birthday on it.

SPEAKER_08 4:23

Yeah, that's so good.

SPEAKER_04 4:25

Or it things wrapped in Christmas paper, it's it is tragic. And people can't come to your birthday party because they're going to a Christmas party. So I had to uh pitch a fit a few years ago and say enough. And so I decided I would give baby Jesus Christmas Eve and Christmas, but I get the rest of December. Okay. That's what I decided.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

So it's your birthday month. It's your birthday month. Um, actually, well, my my sister's birthday is on Christmas Day, and her her big gripe, her big gripe is that um people are all celebrating Christmas and they kind of forget that it's her birthday, and her birthday becomes this like sidebar. Oh, right, Merry Christmas, and happy birthday. But the thing about the presents, let me tell you, it did not happen in my family because when I I remember being very young and I wake up and her pile was always bigger than my pile. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here? Um it wasn't it wasn't because she didn't like she only got one birthdayslash Christmas present combined, like she got she got double fucking everything. They were separate, they were separated, and she got double fucking everything. And I was always like, you know, this seems a little bit biased. Um, because as a kid, as a kid, you don't really understand that. December is gonna be like the most expensive month on my calendar because it's my partner's birthday on the first of December, then your birthday is next. I'm not complaining, then your birthday is next, and then and then and then my sister's birthday is on Christmas Day, plus I add Christmas into the equation, then my father is two days after Christmas, so for fuck's sake. Like, I'm gonna start screening new relationships and friends according according to their birthdays. I'm gonna be like, You're in December. I'm sorry, we can't be friends. Like, I'm hoping I'm in December. December is booked. Like, I can I can I can squeeze you in in like April, like May is a write-off as well. I can squeeze you in April, July, but anything outside of that, sorry. It's a no-go for new friendships in December. Hard no from me.

SPEAKER_04 6:10

Is it it is interesting how we attract certain uh horoscopes because there are certain months when somebody says, like, I'm a Taurus, I'm like, I I don't know anything about a Taurus or a Gemini, very little about Gemini's Aries. I can tell you anything about Leo's, Virgos, Libra, but the rest of them, yeah, Scorpio. I usually avoid, but you're you're my exception.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

It's weird. Like, I've I've recently met a lot of people who say just exactly that.

SPEAKER_04 6:36

Um Sagittarians are blunt.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

We don't mix our work. We we don't really hang out with each other. Um nobody else is really good. But like there's a like um one of the other podcasters that I talked to, Mel, who does that Melanchana and uh tangential, tangential downpour. Um, she says she's got loads and loads of Scorpios in her life, which is weird. She's like one of those people who attracts lots of Scorpios. I seem to attract Sagittarians, Sagittarians and Capriconians, Capricornians, Capra.

SPEAKER_04 7:06

Yeah, I it's only been recent years I've been collecting Capricorns, but prior, prior, not so much that either.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Leo's I have Leo's, I have like a visceral reaction to. Like I can I can tell somebody's a Leo within a few minutes of meeting them. I'll be like, and you're a dick.

SPEAKER_04 7:20

Um I was in an Uber in LA, and just the we were doing one of those share Uber things, and this girl, just the way she was complaining, I said, Are you a Leo? I was half joking. She goes, Yeah, how do you know?

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Well, because you're a bit of a douche. So um not all Leo's a bit.

SPEAKER_04 7:42

Well, my my my son's a Leo, my sister's a Leo. I take it back. My stepdad, I know you have to take it all back now. But they they they you know what the great thing is you can't insult a Leo because they're so narcissistic, they don't take it. They're like, I'm sure there's a compliment in there somewhere. Let me snatch it out of the mouth of that insult.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

My my my ex-boyfriend from when I was in university, of like we were together for six years, he was a Leo. Um, and he he was one of the but he was like, I've always had this thing with Leos, um, like even before him, and he was my exception to the Leo. Like, I was like, Yeah, you're not like the other Leos. He is so like he is so atypical, Leo. It's fucking disgusting. But he just mastered it, he hit it very well. Anyway, what are we supposed to be talking about?

SPEAKER_00 8:26

He knew Leos.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

But Pleiadians, Pleiadians are from the star system, they're from the Taurus constellation. That was our beautiful segue, our very long-winded and windy segue. They're from the constellation of a Taurus, the bull.

SPEAKER_04 8:40

Right. Because they're stubborn. Because that's one of their traits, one of their fun traits. Not the pleiades. Do you want to the taurus seeds? Do you want to start off with star seeds for anyone who doesn't know what a star seed is?

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Well, okay, so star seeds um in a nutshell are essentially like um souls that are inhabiting on this plane in human form, but we're essentially seeded from the stars. So, like we're souls from other planets that or other dimensions, whatever it is, living in human form in this existence on this time plane, in this dimension. And they're often referred to as indigo children as well. And I've believed for many, many, many years that I have the indigo quality. Um, and I think people who are very empathic probably are starseeds as well. They tend to be like you tend to be able to spot them because they are fair-skinned, blue-eyed, blonde-haired. So hashtag white people.

SPEAKER_04 9:31

Well, that's that's actual well, actually, that's uh starseeds in general encompass all of it. So Pleiadians are more the Scandinavian looking, yeah. Whereas other star, I mean other starseeds from other planets also have different characteristics. So so starseed like the um umbrella for the rest of the the for the babies underneath. So I have a fun quiz. Could you be a starseed? Ready?

SPEAKER_01 10:01

Let's go. Okay, you're quizzing me. I'm game, I'm in.

SPEAKER_04 10:03

Yeah, okay. Do you have compelling eyes? Yes. Do you have personal charisma? Most times.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

I'm just gonna answer for you. Okay, then.

SPEAKER_04 10:14

Now this is this is one that's interesting because I think we've talked about it. Uh O negative blood type.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

You don't know, yes, I do. I am O negative.

SPEAKER_04 10:25

Are you O negative? O negatives are often Pleiadian, by the way. I am also O negative.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

I am O negative.

SPEAKER_04 10:32

And we'll come back to the blood type thing because I found a lot of fascinating things about that. Um, okay. Uh, are you hypersensitive?

SPEAKER_01 10:41

All the fucking time. All the time. I'm having seven personal crises right now.

SPEAKER_05 10:47

Like I wasn't gonna answer that one for you because I didn't want to hurt your feelings.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

So are you hypersensitive? Yes. What would you have done if I had said no? There would have just been like a stunned silence on the other side.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

You want to think about that? My cackle laugh, like excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Snort laughing.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

Lower than lower than normal blood pressure.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

I I'm not sure how to how do you know about that? Like, do you feel dizzy?

SPEAKER_04 11:14

Uh the doctor tells you.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 11:17

The doctors, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

My blood pressure is never pleasure. My blood pleasure, my blood pressure has never been high, if that makes a difference. Like I've never been told I have high blood pressure. So that's a good sign. I think I think things that are indicators of low blood blood pressure are if you can't withstand it um high temperatures as well, like very hot days, like you get a little lightheaded. So then I would definitely be on that list because I like the cool weather. Um I prefer cool over hot. Anyway, yeah. I'm gonna say yes. I'm gonna say yes, I have low blood.

SPEAKER_04 11:48

You thrive on little sleep and do your best work at night.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Yes, absolutely me.

SPEAKER_04 11:54

I like this one because I think most people could answer yes to this. Was an unexpected child. I mean, is anyone really on purpose?

SPEAKER_01 12:02

Uh yeah, I I would probably guess that yes. Yes. I don't think my parents did an awful lot of planning. My parents are very young.

SPEAKER_05 12:09

Uh mine too. Teenagers.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Nobody chooses to have babies with their teenagers. No one's like, let's settle down. Um so yes.

SPEAKER_04 12:19

Although generally expressing love for their parents, feel that their mother and father are not their real parents. I looked for a birth certificate for years.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

I wondered if I was adopted for a long time. Yeah. See? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:32

Many have, and this is to do with you, many have red hair.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

Whoa, yes, I do.

SPEAKER_04 12:37

There I am. Well, yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Um I did. Shut up. Shut up. See, this is remember going back to that hypersensitive thing? That's that's that's this is a good example of that. Um don't make me prove it. Do not make me do not make me stand up on this camera and prove to you that the carpet makes the drapes. Please do not make me prove it to you. Let me tell you actually, one fun thing. So when I when I was still on the scene in China and still like having hookups and dates and things like that, a lot of a lot of the general Chinese public are blown away by the fact that Westerners have different color pubic hair to like what's on your head. And I think I think for some reason they just assume that everybody in the world has a big black bush of pubes. I don't know why. Because every every hookup I've ever had, they're like, oh my god. And I'm like, look at that. Um, but it's not black.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

And I'm like, that's right. I really hope when the aliens listen to this, what are pubes?

SPEAKER_02 13:33

So amused.

SPEAKER_04 13:34

What are pubes? Pubes.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

Tell me about these pubes.

SPEAKER_04 13:37

It's um feel a great sense of urgency and a short time to complete complete important goals, a special mission. No kidding, during my time with Shiro recently, I yesterday actually, I told him, and I I I've said this even to you, that I've had um nightmares, not just the one before my birthday where I woke up and thought I was turning 60 and had like a meltdown. But but before that, I've had these dreams and and I start doing math. Like, how many more years do I have to do what I want to do? How many more years do I die? I'm always counting to 85. Like, I'm just I think that's it for me. But um, but do you have that? Do you have that sense of time is running out for you?

SPEAKER_01 14:19

Yes. And I think it a lot of it comes down or a lot of it goes back, I think, to um when I was in hospital and I had the abdominal tumor. Um, and I basically spent four months in a hospital bed. And it gives you an awful lot of time to think about how how fragile life is, and uh it is just not worth wasting your time doing shit that you don't want to do because you're gonna die. Uh it's gonna happen. So choose to spend your time the way you want to spend your life. Don't do things that you other people think you should be doing, or ever. Ever, like ever.

SPEAKER_04 14:49

Um, so there's no empirical evidence that we have to die. So I'm gonna try to prove it wrong.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

That's what you know, like become too aged to be able to do some things that you want to do, type of thing. Life's life's too short.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Life's too short. Um life is too short.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

And you know, uh something else that I've learned as well about life in general is that you ain't taking anything with you to the grave. Like there's there's a few things you are taking with you to the grave. One of those things is life experience. Um, so travel and do all the things that you want to do because you're taking that to the grave with you. The other thing is tattoos. Um, so go and get yourself lots and lots of tattoos because they're gonna bury you with your tattoos.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

Um not in a Jewish cemetery.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Not in a Jewish cemetery. Or unless you unless you get like um, you know, what's the word when they remove your skin? Gross. That's what the word is. Um flailed. I want to say it's flailed when they remove your skin. Like you can so you can actually you can actually have your tattoos framed and like your skin sort of stretched and preserved in the framed.

SPEAKER_04 15:44

Do you recall that from a previous episode? Yeah. Of your gross ways that you want to preserve yourself.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

But I think my so since then my plan has changed, and I'm gonna do it without telling, I'm gonna do it without telling anybody. Like, I'm just gonna quietly slip it into like my last will and testament so that nobody in my family knows that they should do it. And I'm gonna surprise them with gifts of my preserved skin tattoo after I've died. It'll be like just delivered to you. Ding dong, who's that? It's a delivery. What is it? It's some tattooed skin. Um that would be a surprise.

SPEAKER_04 16:14

Surprise. That would be a surprise. I don't know if it'd be a welcome surprise. You know what? Don't feel like you have to do that for me. You could like send a letter or a voicemail.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

A lampshade, a lampshade. No, no, I'll have it made out of my torso torso tattooed. It's a lampshade with nipples. Yay.

SPEAKER_04 16:36

With if it had if it has fringe and tassels, then I maybe. Maybe we'll talk about it. And we're back to the peoples.

SPEAKER_02 16:43

We're back to the peoples.

SPEAKER_04 16:47

Then I'm back on no.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

Well, there's a page.

SPEAKER_04 16:51

Okay, so I'm I'm not gonna go through all these because there's like 50, but let me let me let me get some highlight ones. Um, they appear to have unusual abilities: art, music, math, drama, natural science, and healing. All of these you sing better than any person I know.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Oh, thank you.

unknown 17:06

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 17:07

Sorry to anyone listening that also sings. I apologize. Um sorry, you're you're all good too. You're all very good. But yeah, of course, you of course you hit that one. Often have flying dreams. I love flying dreams.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

I can't say I've had flying dreams. I do get I do get that. Yeah, I do get that that that like um, you know, when you're about to fall asleep and you have that sense of falling, the free fall. I get that quite often. Well, I used to, I haven't had it recently. Um, I can't say I remember having any flying dreams, to be honest.

SPEAKER_04 17:39

Some people say that when you're having the falling dreams, that's actually the astral projection because you know your spirit.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

Is it like coming or coming back?

SPEAKER_04 17:48

With the umbilical cord. Yep. Um, okay, suffer swollen or painful joints.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

I thought that was just getting older, but maybe that is just getting older, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:00

93% are empathetic, empathetic. Yeah. Empathetic.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

I am empathetic. 93% are pathetic. Um pathetic.

SPEAKER_04 18:11

They they remember past lives from this planet as well as others. Yeah. Um, have memories of birth or infancy. I remember drowning. That's my first memory. I and so I was a toddler.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

I remember so many things from being a kid. I'm like things that my Really? Yeah, things that my like when I've spoken, when I've like mentioned them to family members, I'll be like, I remember that time. They're like, how the hell do you remember that? Like you you were like three. Um, I remember a lot of my things from like my little childhood, my wee, my wee, my wee childhood.

SPEAKER_04 18:45

I remember he has red hair, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

Tiny little leprechaun.

SPEAKER_04 18:57

Uh telepathic or have uh psychic events.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Uh yes.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

Taller than average. Maybe not by not much, but they are taller. We're both tall.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Yeah, and and when I was reading about the Pleiadians or the Pleiadians or the Pleiadians, whichever the way we're gonna Pleiadians.

SPEAKER_04 19:18

We're just gonna go with it because YouTube said it was right.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Okay, so what and you know, it's it's YouTube says. Um, but we we fit you and I, uh it was something I read when I was looking at the researchers. They they say why don't we try that whole sentence again? They are said to be between six to eight feet tall, the Pleiadians. Um, and so I'm I'm banging that. I'm banging the zone. We interrupt your regular programming to bring you one quick reminder. Our big goal to end off 2020 with a nice big positive bang is to get onto the podcast magazine top 50 podcasts, and to do that, we need your help. The awesome part is that it's uh the votes from listeners that will get us there. So your vote really, really counts. All you have to do is click the link in the show notes below and vote for Xander and Stone Podcast, hosted by Xandrin Stone and hit send. Super simple. Show notes, click the link, write Xander with an X, Xander and Stone Podcast, hosted by Xander Stone, and hit send. It would mean so much to us, even just to make it onto that list. And we really need your votes. So be awesome and vote for Xander Stone.

SPEAKER_08 20:32

Dear God.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

I am not fussy.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

You took that to a whole other level than I was expecting. But yeah, I don't know why I didn't expect it, but oh that's on me, really, at this point. Um, they are interested in life and people find them fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

These things ultra okay, so clearly you and I are from the Pleiades. Clearly.

SPEAKER_04 20:55

And I mean I mean, how many times none of those sounded like bad things.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

Why would we not say that we are maybe there are maybe there is a list of like here are all the shitty reasons, the shitty things. Yeah, right. The dark side.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

Well, they do, um, well, so that's about star seeds, which again that's the umbrella. But um, with the Pleiadians specifically, they say that they're stubborn, but that's because they have that sense of knowing better. And I think I've sent you that uh clip probably a couple times now from um what is the name of the movie? I of course the last oh broadcast news, where it's this where the smartest person in the room syndrome comes from. Because Wendy's when he says it must be great to think you know everything, and she says, No, it's awful. And so that's pretty much why they say pleadings are are stubborn, because like they they automatically feel like they know better or they see the bigger picture or they don't understand the minute nonsense rubbish meetings. Yeah, meetings. Oh my god, don't like I'm I'm never more frustrated than in meetings.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

Yeah, and there's I think it was was it Elon Musk or it was Some like big Fortune 500 tycoon person who said, like, you're either having a meeting, it might have been Bill Gates um or Steve Jobs. Okay, well, anyway, somebody big who said you're either having a meeting or you're working, you cannot do both. And I'm like, Yes, Steve, it was Steve. I see it. It's fucking Steve because meetings are such a waste of time. And my my absolute waste of time. My absolute like the the thing that gets under my skin the most is when you go to a meeting and somebody opens a fucking PowerPoint. Could you just have emailed me the PowerPoint, please? I can go. Like, I don't need you to read me the slides or read it to me. Come on. Um, all right.

SPEAKER_04 22:31

So the thing is Although the truth is I often probably would open it up, eyeball it for a second, and then close it. Maybe it's been the theory.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

We were just absorbed.

SPEAKER_04 22:40

Absorbed fast, fast.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Yeah, and listening to Joe Schmo read the fucking PowerPoint slides. And they do, and they they get so proud of themselves when they put in like a fancy transition between slides. Suck my dick. Please just send me the send me the PPG, please. Um okay, so I've got uh from the the Gaia website, which is Gaia is fantastic. We'll just do a little quick plug for Globe. Gaia. Um, how do you know if you're a starseed? And from the the Gaia website, it says you may have a quiet sense that you came from somewhere beyond the planet and can imagine your physical appearance from prior lives in other worlds. Maybe you fantasize about life in other galaxies with the hope of incarnating elsewhere for future births. You might also be wondering how you got here and if you'll ever return. There are so many things I have to say about this. Um, even with these feelings of alignment with other worlds, you might never know whether or not you are genuinely a starseed. We all seek belonging, alignment, or kinship with it with another person, family, group, culture, or society. To fill our hearts and inspire us, we crave acceptance and connection to help us identify where we might belong. We adorn ourselves with labels that make us feel special or unique. We might say, I'm a seven on the Aneogram, I don't know what that is, or I'm a recovering Catholic, which I can I understand that. Or I'm a conservative Democrat. We might even say I'm a starseed Pleiadian, to be precise, which is the that is the that is the label I'm gonna use now. People are gonna be like, what's your pronoun? I'll be like Palladian, thank you very much. Uh and then it and then it continues to say, whether they're based in truth or not, we love our temporary self-identities, the personality construct with which we build our personas, relationships, and lives. When traditional titles and archetypes fail us, we hunt elsewhere, even in the stars. So I think that is a really awesome way of like putting it together like this, almost like um somebody who feels like the the identity of not just like gender and race and things like that, but the identity of being part of like the human race. You feel like you're a bit on the outside looking in, and that you don't really connect with like a lot of the like you just said, the day-to-day bullshit of being human. One of the one of the things in there though, and I know you and I have spoken about this uh quite quite some time ago now. Um the actual constellation for plea for the Pleiades from ever since I was a little kid, when I looked out of my from my from my parents' home, when I looked out of my bedroom at night, I would always seek out the same like cluster of stars that I saw. I'm sure I've told you about this, and it was always like I always knew exactly where to look, where to find it, almost like instinctually. Um obviously being in the southern hemisphere, it's you know a different sky to what I'm used to now. Um, and it turns out many, many years later, I always called it my key. Like I looked up at the and I thought it looked like the back end of an antique key, like you know, like a stem with like a round thing on the end. Um and I always called it like my the key stars. I found out many years later that it's actually the Pleiadian star constellation that I was looking for.

SPEAKER_04 25:37

Um You're looking for home.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

I was looking for home.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

And you and I, how many times have you and I joked about this? Like when the mothership comes to collect us, don't forget to don't forget to pick me up on the way.

SPEAKER_04 25:47

Um please, please just do a drive-by. Yeah, and if one of us gets picked up first, we have to remember to go over and get the other one. Don't get left behind.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

That's a rule. Don't get left behind.

SPEAKER_04 26:02

Uh so I did you look up any of the there's some Native American uh background as well. I did. I did.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

There's there's um the Native American uh background and the Pleiadians. Um there's also the Australian Aboriginals, they also have uh a lot of uh connections to the the stars, uh the Pleiadian star system. Um it's also in Greek mythology. A lot of them say a lot of them say that um because it's one of the most noticeable constellations in the sky, um, it's not like you know, it's surrounded by a lot of other stuff in the sky. There's not a lot like kind of cramping it, so it's very it's there is, we just can't see it.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

We just can't see it.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Yeah, um, but it stands out in our sky. So it means that a lot of um, you know, a lot of the the different cultures and different folklore from around the world have attributed a lot of different meanings from the Egyptians to the Greeks to the Romans to the North Americans to you know African cultures. Um it's in in China they call it the Mao, M-A-O, um, and it's essentially known as the hairy head of the white tiger of the West, but it's also um known as the blossom stars or the flower stars. In the Middle East, um, the cluster of the Pleiades is called the Al Turaya, and in Japanese it's called hokiboshi, which means dabs of paint in the sky, which I thought was quite pretty. Um and it's in in so many different cultures, so many different cultures.

SPEAKER_04 27:25

In Japan as well, uh Subaru means yes. Um I thought that was so interesting. And that their little yeah, and their symbol is uh the cluster. And I never I never knew that.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

I and and it was because the the Subaru company is actually made up uh uh of a lot of different companies that kind of merged together and came up with the Subu company.

SPEAKER_04 27:47

And it means united. And it means united, yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

I also read that in my research.

SPEAKER_04 27:51

Yeah, I thought that's a little fun fact.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 27:54

Uh so the the Cherokees actually, the Cherokee Indians actually uh say that they are from that they they are descendants of Pleiades. And I'm part Cherokee as well, by the way. Of course. And then um also what was the other one? There was another Navajo uh call call it the sparkling suns. Iroquois petition the constellation for happiness. Yeah, the Lakota Dakota people say their ancestors are also from Pleiades. Okay, so there you go. And some of the go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

No, you go ahead. Keep going, keep going, you're on a roll.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

Okay, some of the starseed traits were the well, it's it's a younger race because there are of course there's uh more than just one race.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Sure. There's the reptilians and the Syrians, and there's a long list.

SPEAKER_04 28:44

Yeah, the Arcturians, and so uh there's often a male energy, which I've been accused of many times. Um that the energy is basically masculine. There's a clear presence of power and masculine energy, especially from the females. It can be an odd quirk that women are more masculine in their thinking than their men, and the males seem much more feminine and take a back seat to the women.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

That explains so much about our dynamic, doesn't it? I didn't think it was interesting. I did think it was interesting. I was like okay, that that settles it. Like of all the criteria to find out if your star seeds are from the Pleiadians, I mean between you and I. That's the one that I'm like absolutely zero doubt about that. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

I know it's it was and and what we were talking about pre-show as well. It's uh yeah, quite on point. They radiate power, and then I knew number four, I think will appeal to you. Uh intellectual, feeling, and sexual. So they're very intelligent and feeling creatures and can possess a deep compassion and love of life. They are extremely sexual creatures who um are like the dolphins which swim around having sex all the time with different partners.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

And make that weird dolphin sound.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

That's that's kind of my that's my trade. That's like my trademark thing as I'm reaching like climax as I start doing a kind of dolphin sound. I do too.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

That's so weird you would say that that's a lot of things. And then I blow water out in the hole and we're good to go. Like we're done.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

Again, really glad my dad doesn't know I do a podcast. That would be way too much information. Um, part of their spirituality is tied up with sex or the ultimate bonding with another, and much of their spiritual philosophy revolves around the sex act. And this is in I swear to you, I I told you this. I'm I'm sad to admit that I told you this, which is said to keep them rejuvenated, age more slowly, and reach higher planes. Because I actually looked it up because somebody had very nicely talked about how young I look. And I I uh I researched it, and um, Lady Gaga had said orgasms are what keep her young. Because I because I had said the same thing, and I was like, oh, me and Lady Gaga, but apparently that's a thing to to feel like it rejuvenates you and makes your skin more I mean okay, so it does science even backs that one up though, it really does.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Are we putting the like are we orgasming and then putting it on our skin as like a rejuvenation type of zero?

SPEAKER_04 31:15

Well, they say like you're you know the blood vessel rush and everything. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

So I can I can stop with those facial contracts then, because then that's just unnecessary. Um extra mile on this one. You're fine. Whatever works for you. I'm not judging. Just on my face. Um, okay, no. I wish you hadn't complied as I said that. I was hoping that was gonna get drowned up by your laughter. Um yeah, I did I I did uh I did look at the the um uh indigenous peoples of America and their connection to the Pleiades as well. And it's a very long list. The Iroquois, the Hopies, the Cheyenne, the uh the Cherokee, Cado, Blackfoot, Lakota, Kioa, the Mono, the the Navajo. I mean, the the list is very long. And they all seem to have the same kind of um like origin story. Like the one for the Hopi Indians is that they the the Hopi determined the passage of time for nighttime rituals in winter by observing the Pleiades and Orion's belt. Um, and they would use it to basically mark time, and they used like the Pleiades star constellation as one of their like calendar marks, and it's also very connected to the Mayan calendar as well. And the Mayan calendar had a lot of connection to the Pleiades, too. Agreed, agreed, yes. A hard yes.

SPEAKER_04 32:39

I thought there was more, so I was waiting.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

That's a hard yes. A lot of them call a lot of different cultures call them like the seven somethings, so like the seven sisters or the seven brothers or the seven wives or whatever it might be. Um, and in the in the um Australian Aboriginal um like folklore, they call them the seven sisters of the dreaming stars, which I thought was really, really pretty.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

I love that. That's poetry.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Um and it's a very similar story to what uh uh appears in the ancient in with ancient Greeks as well. Um but they say that in the Seven Sisters story in uh Aboriginal Australia, the group of stars um are known as the Napoli Jari. I don't know if I'm saying that correctly, as per usual the Napoli Jari sisters. Um and uh so obviously there's different tribes of the Australian um aboriginals as well. In the World P-A-R-L, which is difficult to say, World Piri, the World Piri story, um the sisters, the sisters often represented carrying a man, um, and this man is in love with these the seven sisters, the woman. Uh so they you know they they they they attribute a lot of like kind of uh feminine um what's the word like feminine um symbology to these stars. And then in the South African cultures, in Zulu, one of their origin stories, the Zulu people, like if they if you go very back, they don't obviously have any written record of their history. Um it's all word of mouth. And there's a dude who's still alive today, I believe, or he was at least a few years ago, and he is one of the like um the oldest known uh storytellers of the Zulu people. And he in fact he even wears this very, very interesting piece of traditional jewelry that it that is part of the origin story, and each like almost like a set of rosary beads, like each bead has a reason and a story into it. Oh nice but but the the story in this necklace that he wears and each stage of the story that you go through is the story of how we arrived or how the Zulu people arrived from the stars, and they are actually star seeded, they are actually star people, and of course, guess where they come from? The Pleiades. Um, so even the Zulu culture, their origin story of how people got here, how their culture started, where humans come from, is that we came from the Pleiades, we came from that star constellation. Uh so it's interesting. Very beautiful. Very beautiful, yes.

SPEAKER_04 35:04

I I was able to find a little science on this.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

Tell us a little bit of science.

SPEAKER_04 35:10

Dr. Michael Eamon Salah? Dr. Salah, we're just gonna go with Dr. Salah. Um, in 2001, became interested in the study of all of this. And so him and a team of exoscientists claim that Pleiadians are our far distant cousin and our ancestral forebearers. And some of this ties back again to the um racist negative uh blood type. Yeah, so that the I and I had read that before that if you have O negative, you're likely to be a lizard person and things like that, which is sort of fascinating. And and I I think I told you because in China it's considered it's called panda blood because it's so rare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and and you're the universal donor if you're O negative specifically. But um, so uh but the theory goes back to ancient Sumerian times when a highly advanced alien race came from elsewhere in the cosmos and began building the first uh human societies. They believed that they genetically altered primitive human species, creating stronger, more adequate beings that were used in s as slaves. Yes, the Anunnaki in the distant exactly in the distant past. Um the RH Rh negative would be legacy of the Annuaki, do it again.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Anunnaki.

SPEAKER_04 36:29

Anunnaki, yes, uh left on earth, among other things. Um, and then they actually reference the Bible and say Genesis 6.2, where it says the sons of God saw the daughters of men, saw they were fair, and took them wives, all of which they chose, and then 6.4, which says God came into the daughters of men, they bore children to them the same being mighty of old. So not only this the science, the biblical tradition, and then Native Americans and and all these other cultures, it seems to be a very consistent theme.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

Yeah, the I mean the Anunarchy is the Anunarchy, they apparently come from the planet Nibiru. Um, and they obviously are given credit for developing the human species and like genetic modification, like you said, with uh Neanderthals who come up with Homo sapien sapien, which is us, and that we were supposed to be uh a slave race here to mine gold because they needed gold for their atmosphere. Um now there's a lot of like conspiracy theorists that say that the Anunnaki are still alive on the planet, like they're but they're represented as part of like the Illuminati and these shadow governments, and they're the ones that are in control, and now the commodity that they want is power and money. Um but the the the Nephilim, like that that that that little phrase that you read out from the Bible there, did you notice how that they referred to uh the gods in plural? Which I thought was very interesting because the entire Bible they talk about there being one God and it's you know thou shalt not have any other god. But there are actually a few books of the Christian Bible, you know, that reference gods in plural. Um I will misquote the passage now, but like there's a and we shall make man in our image, and it's again referring into the plural. Um so there's a lot of like controversy around that, which I think is fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 38:16

Interesting. Aliens.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

Aliens that's gonna be the that's gonna be the most uh obvious explanation is the aliens.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

Right. Yeah, so well, and if you look at all the money that NASA is putting in and China is putting in, well, a lot of the uh to space exploration trying to get messages to ETs and redesigning um DNA and then sending those signatures, it just seems like uh we're not the only ones, even in in the science realm that they're really looking into this much, much further.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

I mean, there's I I think was was it Stephen Hawkin or one of those that um that said like we need to be a little bit careful about just sending signals out into space because we c we don't necessarily know who's going to pick the signal up and what their intention will be.

SPEAKER_04 39:04

And they may treat us like bacteria because they wouldn't think you know, they might just completely wipe us out.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

Yeah, exactly. Um there's I know like one of the lists of the lists of the different alien races that are supposedly out there, and particularly the ones that are you know visiting Earth, and you know, there's a couple of different races who are competing for power on Earth and things like that. Um, the Greys are supposed to be the ones that we need to be the most wary of. And there's a there's a famous, you know, we'll have to cover it in another episode, but there's a famous um broadcast that was received by uh um a guy um that it was received in binary code. If you go and check out uh Earth Files, Linda Moulton Howe, who's m one of the most amazing researchers and ufologists out there, like this woman is a god. I messaged her on Instagram. I'm like, hey Linda. Um course you did. Of course I did. Um like if if if I could ever choose somebody who I could be like mentored by, like who I could, you know, learn from, I'd be like, Linda, I'm coming to hang out with you. She is absolutely she's absolutely amazing. She makes like she makes like uh scientific, like the scientific perspective of ufology very, very accessible to like you know, lay people like myself who don't understand you know quantum mechanics and things like that. Um, she's done a lot of research into different alien races and like things like cattle mutilations and abductions and things. She's uh one of the leading journalists in this field and she has Earth Files. Shout out to Linda, hey Linda. Um she's awesome. I know she listens to the podcast. Um shout out to you, Linz. Uh I I watch her live YouTube videos all the time. Where was I going with this long rant?

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SPEAKER_01 41:35

Oh, yes. So there's um a guy who received uh like uh telepathic messages uh when he had an encounter with UFOs, and it was done in binary code, and you know, people are like, why binary? And because it's the universal communications, it's ones and zeros, math, you know, math, math, math, math, mathematics, hashtag math. Hashtag math, hashtag music. But um, and those two things are very connected, math and music. Um, but when the the code was deciphered, it essentially gave us warning of uh certain like um coordinates for certain star clusters that we must avoid because we don't want them to pick up in our messages, but essentially we're saying like, hey, here we are, come and get us, type of thing.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

Right.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Um, we need to be careful. But it was Stephen Hawking who said um either we are alone in the universe or are or we are not. Both thoughts are equally terrifying, which is the truth. What do you think? Are you would you be more afraid of the fact that we're alone in the universe and we're like this kind of like cosmic joke kind of thing, or like a cosmic, like you know, myself fluke, fluke, that's the word. Um would you rather be in a universe teeming with life? Unknown life, a universe teeming with life. Absolutely, right? Like what a scary thought.

SPEAKER_04 42:48

I don't I don't the lonely planet, that's too scary.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

Far too terrifying. And there there are also a lot of people who have been in contact with aliens and received messages from the Pleiadians and these people who say that they actually protect our planet. Um, there's the and and very unknown to us, they've been protecting our planet from like uh asteroid impacts, you know, like um comets and things like that, invasion by other alien races. Um, so you know, we might have these like secret guardians kind of just lingering, you know, just outside of our kind of telescope zone who've been protecting us for all of these times. And I'm gonna call it it's the Pleiadians, they're protecting us.

SPEAKER_04 43:23

Of course it is, because we've been told that we're Pleiadians, so of course it will be a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

Yes, and I need and you know, we know that they're listening to this podcast, and we just want to extend our deepest gratitude to the race of Pleiadians who have been protecting our planet. Um thank you for having our back. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys.

SPEAKER_04 43:41

Um, I was at a Tucson Peace fair. Yeah, this begs to be mentioned, and um there was a a guy who came up and he had these crystal crystal blue eyes. You know, like those unnerving. I've I've met a couple people like this, and both of them were as suspected unnerving. And he introduced himself at Zen. Of course, I'm at a peace fair. So I'm like, of course your name's Zen. You know, it's hard to not be sarcastic. I bet I kept it inside. I was pretty proud of myself of keeping that one inside. Of course it's Zen. Of course it is. And so then I asked him what he does. And he said, I am an officer with the Ashtar Command. And I said, What is the Ashtar Command? So then he proceeds to tell me. And I am dying inside because I have a good sense of humor. And everything in me wants to laugh out loud.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

You've got so many jokes.

SPEAKER_04 44:34

Stifle, stifle, keep a straight face. You can get through this. Nod, smile, nod, smile. As soon as I get in the car, I'm like, Ashtar Command. Thinking like I mean, he could still be a nut job. Yeah. But thinking he just made this whole thing up because I'd never heard of the Ashtar Command. And uh and sh and he he told me like Galactic Federation and we're we're in charge of protecting blah blah blah. And then I looked it up and I was like, oh, this is legit. This is a real thing. I mean, you know, people and and then I started reading more about Ashtar and the and the messages that were channeled and all those things. But uh but yes, supposedly I met an officer from the Ashtar Command.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

So for those of people who don't know, what is the Ashtar Command?

SPEAKER_04 45:18

So it's uh intergalactic federation, and so it's different uh it's different entities from different planets that are protecting and uh taking care of of each other, but I think they're mostly looking after us as well. And and they they supposedly have meetings with our leaders as well, like they have these secret meetings about what what is in the best interest for us.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

Yeah. Um and there's uh I mean like I think as as far as it goes, like with all these different like advanced alien species and them all being far, far, far more advanced and more advanced in not just technology and thought, um, and like but they're advanced in years as well. They've been around a lot longer than we've been around. And we're kind of like the we're kind of like I think we're you know, I think as a species, humans, we're kind of like that embarrassing side of the family that comes over at Christmas that you don't really go and see for the rest of the year, but you know you have to see them at Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

Um Jerry Springer show. We're kind of like the we're not even.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

We're like the the weird cousins. Um we're like the undeveloped, you know, slightly slow cousin um who gets to sit who's a little bit too old, but is still sitting at the kid's table. Um, because you know that's where they belong.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

Um but yeah, so we're somebody's gonna look out for us.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

We're yeah, we're we're that kid. We're that weird kid, that slow kid that uh sits at the the the the child's table when they're far away past that age. Um as a species. Um yeah. But the so I I did have a look. So look, the the the the Pleiadians are also known as the Nordic aliens. And I don't know if this is gonna be a very controversial thing to say on the podcast or whether it's even gonna make it into the podcast. Um I'm gonna I'm gonna judge from your reaction to what I'm about to say as to whether or not this is allowed to get aired, or if it's gonna if it's gonna start some sort of like stated for what's coming next. So there's something that I've considered, and I I might have even mentioned this to you in the past. Um it's something that I've I've thought about many, many times. If you look at the native people of any continent on earth, if you look at Africa, the native people of Africa are dark-skinned with brown eyes and dark hair. If you look at the Aborigines uh from Australia, dark-skinned, darker. If you look at the Inuit people, if you look at the Native Americans, they've got like a darker skin tone than you know what Caucasian people like us have. Um when I say people like us, I'm talking about Caucasian people. They're physically more designed to live on this planet comfortably because of the exposure and our distance to the sun. Um, you know, like if I go into the sun for like you know more than 10 minutes, I'm I'm burnt red. My skin does not like the sun, that you know, the star, I get burnt. I'm not built to be outside for extended periods of time. They talk about the um the Nordic aliens, right? If you look at the if you look at the land masses of Earth, even if you look at places like Asia, dark hair, dark, dark, dark hair, dark eyes, and and skin that can you know handle the sunshine and goes a beautiful golden color. The when you look at like the description of Nordic aliens being light-skinned, light-eyed, and light hair, we're actually not designed to be this close to our star. We're not designed to be this close to the sun. It shouldn't have to harm us. If we if we had developed, if you want to look at something like Darwin's theory of evolution, if we had evolved on the planet, we would have evolved to have skin that can at least withstand the you know the impact of this the star that we live next to. So my theory is that this earth actually belongs to the native people who come from all of these other continents. Um it belongs to the Native American people, the people of South America, the people of Africa, the people of uh you know Asia and the Aboriginals. I think us, you know, Caucasian people, I think we're the weirdos. I don't think we're built to withstand this planet. I think if there's going to be a race of Neanderthal or whatever it is that has genetic manipulation from something from another planet, it would definitely be us. Because we are actually we are physically not built to be in this proximity to the star that we're in proximity to. We also, and this is something I learned from just traveling around a lot, we also tend to have far more allergies to foods and things and environmental stimulus than what native people will have. So, like for example, my allergy is watermelon. Um, and people look at me like I'm talking absolute rubbish when I say like if I eat watermelon, my throat starts to close up. I'm allergic to watermelon, I'm allergic to feathers, I'm allergic to grass polls, I've got so many different allergies. Um again, it's if those things are natural part of our natural environment. They're over over evolution and over time, surely we would have you know adjusted to life on the planet and the things that give us sustenance, food, and we wouldn't have allergies to them. Um I mean, what do you think? Is that a very controversial kind of racially dividing thing to say that I truly believe, or I I no, no, wait, let me not say truly believe. I suspect that the the earth and the people who are meant to inhabit this earth and who this earth belongs to is not the blonde-haired, blue-eyed, white-skinned people who are who are on this planet. We come from and if you look at again, and another thing is if you look at the very extremes, if you go from Africa where people are dark, you go from the Middle East and Asia where people are dark-skinned and dark, you know, dark complexions, dark eyes, dark hair. Sure. And then all of a sudden, lily fucking white. You know what I mean? There's no like there's no in-between grading. It goes from like dark skin, dark, designed for this planet, designed for this environment, to lily fucking white can't be in the sun for more than 10 minutes or they roast. You know what I mean? Right. Is that a very controversial thing to say?

SPEAKER_04 51:03

I I mean, I think it can be perceived that way, but there's there's a difference between is it is it racially dividing? Well, yeah, of course. I mean, everything you said is just racially dividing because you're separating races, but I don't think it's racist.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

No, it's not. I don't mean it in that way.

SPEAKER_04 51:17

So that's a that's a very that's a very different thing. Um no, I mean, I I think it's a very interesting theory. And and it actually goes back to the going back to the Rhesus negative thing, is that one of the things they had said is if we all if we all evolved, like let's say we all evolved from um chimpanzees or whatever, then then we have all these different blood types. Like we're okay, so where do all the different blood types come from? And the other thing is, for instance, when I had my son, because I was a negative and his dad was a positive, I had to have a shot so that just in case Chase was positive, my body wouldn't reject the fetus. Oh wow. So one of their theories is that because we have alien blood, that if the baby is not an alien, our body automatically, you know, it doesn't have that alien genetic code that our body automatically rejects it. Yeah. And so there are all these different like it is a mutation to be Rh negative, but it's also the universal donor that can give life to anyone. Yeah. Like, and that's why you give blood is so that you can save people. So it's interesting because really when you're thinking about uh how we've evolved or how we've changed or how we've adapted, I mean, I agree with you that like then why didn't these other things adapt as well?

SPEAKER_01 52:35

I mean, I'm like I'm by no way, I'm by no means saying that like our whatever skin tone or whatever is is superior to any other. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_04 52:42

In fact, actually you're saying that we don't belong here. It's inferior.

SPEAKER_01 52:46

I think it's I think it's inferior to what belongs, what is native, what is what is natural, what can and native to this planet and can survive and thrive in this environment. Even down to the fact that if you look at like um like the uh an African person's natural physique, and like an African man is naturally a very muscular, strong-bodied man, you know what I mean? They and and they for fuck's sake seem to be able to do it without any effort at all. You know what I mean? Like just naturally gorgeous bodies with a perfect arse and abs. Fuck you. Um whereas I have to go and I have to go and take like fucking muscle supplements and go and work out in the gym like an idiot six times a week, just to just to even get like a part of that. Um so I just think like Just to carry your big head around. Just to carry my damn head around, yeah. Um whereas they just have you know natural physiques that are more designed to be able to survive in this environment, whereas we we do not.

SPEAKER_04 53:39

Um now here would be the contradiction is that we just named several cultures, including Native Americans, who believe that they are from that they're also Pleiadians.

SPEAKER_01 53:51

Yeah. Well, I mean the origin the origin story. The origin story is yeah. I don't know. Like it's it's it's it's but anyway.

SPEAKER_03 53:58

No, it's an interesting theory. It's an interesting theory.

SPEAKER_01 54:00

The reason the reason I brought it up though is because when you look at um the other name for the Pleiadians is that they're called the Nordic aliens because of their appearance. They look like, you know, uh so in Ufology, Nordic aliens they're basically like a humanoid extraterrestrial, and they're said to come from the Pleiades, obviously, and they kind of resemble the Nordic Scandinavians. And people who have had contact with them describe them as being six to seven feet tall, so about two meters. They have long blonde hair, blue eyes, and fair skin. And there's the ufologist George. Check, check, check, check, check. Um, the ufologist George Um Adansky is credited with being among the first people to have claimed to have contact with the Nordic aliens, and that was around the 1950s. Um, and I did a little like poking around about George Adansky. Uh, he was a Polish-American citizen and an author, and he came, he became pretty widely known in the UFO circles um for his claims about having contact with the the the Palladian people. Um, and it was it happened sometime around uh uh the 20th of November in 1952, and him and several friends they were in the Colorado Desert near the town of Desert Center in California. What a very literal name to call a town. Desert center. What should we call it? Well, we're in the middle of the desert, so let's call it Desert Center. Um but they purportedly saw a large submarine-shaped object, so like the kind of cigar shape UFO. Uh it was hovering, uh hovering in the sky. I'm believing that the ship was looking for him specifically, because I, you know how how you get to stickle of him. See that thing floating in the sky? He's a Leo. Looking for me. He must be. Wait, when's his birthday? Let's see if I've got his birthday written down. What month he's 21st to 17th of April. No, yeah, 17th of April. He's in Aries. He's in Aries. Okay, well, you know, go figure. Yeah. He said that the fire sign, though.

SPEAKER_04 55:43

Still, they have some ego, those Aries. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 55:46

But believing that the ship was looking for him, Adamsky is said to have left his friends and wandered off uh and headed away from the main road. Shortly afterwards, according to Adamsky's accounts, a scout ship made uh made of a type of translucent metal landed close to him. And its pilot, it's pilot, um, a Venusian called Orthon, uh, got out the ship and basically came and sought him out. And Adamsky claimed that the people with him also saw the Venusian ship. Um, but this one he talks about it being Venusian, not Pleiadian. Um it was later on that he started talking about the Pleiades and this kind of like knowledge that he had received from the Venusians um about all these different like alien races and things that exist out there in the world, in the universe. In the universe.

SPEAKER_04 56:29

I think it's interesting how much is hidden from us because I as as far as the government goes, because uh there have been leaks, obviously, and and things that come through. And then I saw um I don't know, something in Canada where it was people that had retired and were able to talk about it. And I I think I think we're all ready for it. I wish they would just go ahead and open it up and say, okay, this is what's really out. I think that would be nice.

SPEAKER_01 56:55

A lot of UFOs and people and like you know, um, who kind of report on this sort of thing, they're saying that it is coming. And if you start to look, like recently, the um the US government uh kind of confirmed that the what they call the tic-tac movies or the tic-tac film, which was uh recordings of UFOs done by the military. Um, but there's there've been a lot of governments who've been very, very open about it. Um if you look at the Mexican government and I think the Brazilian government, they've always been very open about this whole idea of uh of like uh extraterrestrials and UFOs visiting the planets and being in the skies and things like that.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

Um America just knows that it'll get an uprising, so we try to keep it.

SPEAKER_01 57:32

Will they will I mean will will they really be? Do they they seem to the one of the one of the like reasons they're not disclosing it and they're trying to keep it under uh under wraps is because they say it's gonna like first of all, it's gonna shake the foundation of every major world religion. Finance. Yeah, um, but that also the people are going to go into complete chaos and everybody's gonna run around amok thinking, oh god, oh god, oh god, we're not alone. Really, is that going to happen? I think they should have a bit more faith in modern man.

SPEAKER_04 57:56

Like I I would agree with you, except I've seen what happens here with just trying to get people to wear masks. Yeah, so I've lost a lot of faith in the idea that people can keep it together. It is our right not to wear masks. Like, can you imagine? Yeah, yeah. I there there's uh yeah. I think there's we have civil unrest over masks right now, just to be clear.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

There was there was also, um, it was the George Bush Sr., I believe, who alluded to the fact that um there were extraterrestrials, uh, you know, like knowledge of extraterrestrials. There was a famous speech that he gave. I'm going to hazard a guess and say it was before the desert storm or during desert storm when he was addressing the nation and talking about the war in the Middle East. Um, it might have been Afghanistan, or I think Afghanistan and Desert Storm are the same thing. But he basically said, like, um, we will uh like in an in I'm gonna I'm gonna horribly, horribly paraphrase what he said now. But he basically said something along the lines of um, you know, we will become united as a people when we share a common enemy, like an extraterrestrial enemy. We have a favor to ask of our listeners. If you're enjoying listening to the Xander and Stone podcast, do us a solid and tell your friends, family, even your frenemies about the Xander and Stone Science and Supernatural podcast. We don't mind if you share the links of our episodes on social media because sharing is caring. While you're at it, hit that subscribe or follow button on your podcast app and leave us a comment and a rating. Um so he's like the fact that, like, you know, on Earth we fight each other over things like religion and land and stuff. But how quickly we will all come together when the threat is something as humankind. Yeah. Uh when we need to like fend off an invasion alien race or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 59:47

So that's interesting.

SPEAKER_01 59:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:50

Hmm. And then I did, I did not know he said that. And then I believe I missed that memo.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

I believe it was Jimmy Carter. I'm gonna have a quick goo. Um, but I think it was Jimmy Carter who had uh UFO sighting. Was it one was it him? Was it Jimmy Carter who had a UFO sighting? I'm asking you, Stone. Was it Jimmy Carter?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:11

I thought you were asking, you said you were gonna have a goo.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:14

I thought you were asking Goog.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:17

Um why are you asking me? You have Google right there.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

But uh so he he had he had the the the site, the sighting of um the the UFO before he became president when he was still the governor of Georgia. And while serving as the governor of Georgia, Carter was uh asked to file a report of a sighting by the International UFO Bureau in Oklahoma City, um, which he did in September 1973. And it was on the evening of uh 1969, two years before he became the governor of Georgia. Uh Carter was preparing to give a speech at the Lions Club, um, you know, like the charity club.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:53

I I got a I got a scholarship from the Lions Club. Did you?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

My parents were parents were members of the Lions Club as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:00

So it's very good. Shout out to Lions Club for helping me with my theater scholarship.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

Hi, thanks, guys. Um but at about 7 p.m., 7 15 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, one of the guests called his attention to a strange object that was visible about 30 degrees above the horizon to the west of where he was standing. Carter described the object as being bright, uh bright white, and as being about as bright as the moon. And that's pretty fucking bright. Like that's something you'd notice. That's something you'd notice in the sky. It is it was said to have appeared to have closed in on where he was standing, but to have stopped beyond a stand of pine trees some distance from him. The object is then said to have changed color first to blue, then to red, then to back, then back to white again, before appearing to recede into the distance. Carter felt that the object was self-illuminated and not solid in nature, which I think is very interesting. Self-illuminated and not solid in nature. Uh Carter's report indicates that it was a witness, uh, it was witnessed by about 10 or 12 other people and was in view for 10 to 12 minutes before it passed out of sight. So even the president has reported on having you know encounters with UFOs. And of course, you know, we need to talk about or we need to mention the uh astronauts who returned from the NASA, the Apollo missions, um, who were all sworn to secrecy. There's bits of uh missing tapes from the the Apollo missions where they're said that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin actually mentioned that like there are aliens on the side of a crater and they're telling us to leave, that we shouldn't be here. And now I believe it's Edgar Mitchell, um, who was also on the Apollo missions, who's now starting to come forward basically confirming the fact that our government's known about it, NASA knows about it, and they're definitely aliens that are visiting the planet. So there's a lot of stuff happening around the disclosure of UFOs at the moment. I think it's I think it's exciting. I think it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:54

It is exciting, I think it needs to happen. It's time. We're ready. America can be ready. Well, uh, you know, we've handled a lot this year. Just go ahead and do it this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:03

If you're gonna do it, this is the year to do it. Just finish 2020 over the bang. Bring the internet.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:08

We're just we're tired. It's time. I mean, this is the time. Get us while we're vulnerable.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:12

Yeah, we're just and like maybe bring a corona vaccination with you or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:19

We don't have a lot of fight left, Dennis. It's a good time to reveal another one.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

It'll be it'll be a it'll be a good, like, a good welcoming gift, as if they're like, you know, we bring you solutions for your coronavirus problem and all those sorts of things. Um, but yeah, and then they the going back to what we were talking about about um star people as well. Um, it was actually like the concept of star people, um, which they they refer to as like a new age belief or like a French theory, which I don't quite agree with. Um, but it was introduced by uh by Bride Steagan in his 1976 books, uh Gods of Aquarius. And he was the one who started this kind of um idea or this argument that certain people originated as extraterrestrials and that they arrived on Earth through birth or as a walk in to an existing human body. I've never really heard I've heard that phrase a couple of times this year. You've actually said it to me a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:10

Well, Shiro did during my interview with him that it was a walk-in. What exactly is a walk-in?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:16

What exactly is a walk-in?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:17

So, and I I did I hadn't heard the term walk-in, but I had read a story about this person as well, and it was specifically described as a walk-in. So um basically, let's say at this point you decided that you wanted to check out and and your soul had already agreed, like, okay, at this age, I'm gonna check out, then this entity could have this agreement with you and take over your body and resume your life, but now you're out. So the story I had I had read, I had read, said that um there was a woman, and I have no specifics, I haven't looked it up since I read that the first time, but that she was uh very depressed and like suicidal and had just had it with life. And then one day her family came in and talked to her, and she said, like, for instance, I again I don't know the names, but call me Joan. And so it could either be a personality, you know, split personality, but she said she was a walk-in, and the whole family has embraced her as part of the family and calls her by this other name and specifically believes it's another soul that's inhabiting her body and that their mom's gone.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:27

That's I've I've met somebody who had a similar story, but uh I'm I'm kind of only making the connection that the story was similar. This was not in their words. Um I worked with a guy um when I was still working in theater uh back in South Africa. So obviously long like you know, that we're talking good 10, 15 years ago now. Um I I don't I I'm reluctant to say his name because I don't want to, you know, be I haven't got I haven't got his permission. Um but the name that he uses now, um, he said that he had he had uh and I mean for his first name and his last name, he had completely changed his name because he had reached a point in His life where he no one he no longer wanted to be alive. And he ended up um he ended up in a hospital. I think there was a suicide attempt, if I remember correctly. And what he decided from his hospital bed, or you know, in that time as part of his healing process was that he was going to completely change the identity that he, you know, like who he is in his identity. And he came back and he, you know, went back into the world after healing or whatever it might be as this completely different person with a completely different name. And it was over like a dinner party that he had. He was the director of one of the shows and he invited a few of the cast members, a very small group of us over for dinner, and he had told us about the story. And he said, from the moment that he changed his name, everything in his life, he had made a decision that everything in his life was going to change, everything would be different. And he said, Um, you know, it's and what he said was that in an attempt to kill myself, I didn't kill this body, I just I just let that that that personality, I let that soul go so that a new one could inhabit it. I wonder if he was a walk-in.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:57

That's interesting. And at the time, because you he basically described exactly the basic yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:03

And you know, I mean, at the time I was just like, oh, you know, we're all theater people, how very dramatic, you know, the soul has left my body to welcome anew. Um and I wonder now if he was, you know, without even realizing he was being, was actually being very literal in the way he was describing it, but maybe not being conscious of the fact that he was just you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:25

Or maybe he was being conscious. The the most obvious place to hide is in plain sight, yeah. But in plain sight. So so and it makes me again wonder how many of these experiences you've had, and you're just now putting together the puzzle pieces because maybe you keep saying I haven't had them, and then they keep coming up.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

They keep they do keep coming up. Maybe that's part of my like spiritual awakening is to do this podcast and work through all of these and put and put all these pieces together. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:52

Yeah, um, and then I just figured out ball lightning may be an orb, so it's working for me too.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:58

We're gonna figure life out together, Stone.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

We'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:01

We'll be fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:02

Step by step. We're gonna be like we're gonna reach Buddha Vista, we're gonna reach like enlightenment on a podcast one day. Everybody will be here to see it.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:09

For one episode of the time, or hear it, hear it more likely.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:13

But I I know you've you've mentioned um I think it was I think I think it was you that mentioned Travis Walton to me as well, the guy in Arizona. I did. Did you watch it? I haven't watched it yet because I can't find the movie and I'm cheap and I don't want to buy it. I don't want to pay for it. Um, but Travis Walton is also connected to the Palladians as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:30

Um did you did you see me roll my eyes? I tried to make sure you saw it.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:34

I actually didn't see it, but I visited my my soul felt it.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:38

Um I was I was making sure, right to the camera. Um good. Uh yes, I think that that's a really it's it's well documented, and it's what 20 years later or something, and the stories haven't changed. It's really impressive.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:53

Um for the for the listeners who don't know, and I'm sure most of you would have heard of it, but for those who don't know, the Travis Walton Yeva incident um is an alleged alien abduction that happened in America in the Arizona in Arizona, yes, in Snowflake, Arizona, um, in the Apache Sitgreaves National Forest. And while riding in a truck with six of his co-workers, uh Travis Walton and the six co-workers, they encountered a saucer-shaped object hovering over the ground approximately uh 110 feet away, and it was making a very high-pitched buzz sound, very similar to the buzz sound that your ball lightning was making, that kind of high-pitched buzzing. Uh Walton claims that after he left the truck and approached the object, a beam of light suddenly appeared from the craft and knocked him unconscious. The other six men were frightened and supposedly they drove away. What a fucking douchey thing to do to your friend. Your friend gets out the car, there's a saucer-shaped thing in the sky, beam of light comes down, zaps him, he's unconscious. Everybody's like, fuck this, let's leave.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:52

They saw him lift up.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:54

But they just they just left their friend. They were like, Fuck this, we're out.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:58

I mean, out of out of the six of the people, you think one of them would be like, guys, should we maybe try and help him?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:03

They came back. They came back.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:05

I know, but by then two little.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:07

They might drive away for a second, be like, God, we gotta go back. The self-preservation part of me is probably pretty active there. I'm gonna defend them because I think your initial instincts run, and then your next thought is hang on.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:22

God, damn it. I gotta go back.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:25

Uh but Walton then claimed that he woke up in a hospital-like room and he was being observed by three short bald creatures. Uh, he claimed that he fought with them until a human wearing or a human like a humanoid uh wearing uh a helmet led him to another room where he blacked out as three other humans. Again, I'm doing you know the air quotes humans, humanoids, put a clear plastic mask over his face. Walton has claimed he remembers nothing else until he found himself walking along the highway five days later, with the flying saucer departing above him. And the the reason, you know, he actually, I mean, like you said, he his case is very famous because the story has stayed so very consistent over time. It's not been embellished anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:08

And he did tons of lie detector tests.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:10

And they did tons of lie detector tests. Um, in 1978, he wrote a book called The Walton Experience, which I believe has now been made into a movie, but there's an even better movie called Travis, um, which you told me about. That's the good one. That's the good one. Uh documentary. Yeah. And it uh sorry, the the the nine the 1993 movie um based on his book. Fire in the sky. Fire in the sky. Yes, fire in the sky. You should be on like we should have a Jeopardy round. Like God, it nailed like 200 points.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:38

I know these ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:41

Uh, but the the um the the book The Walton Experience, still detailed detailing his claims, which then became the basis for the 1993 movie The Fire in the Sky. Um, they decided that Walton's account was too fuzzy and too similar to other televised close encounters, so that they ordered the screenwriter, Tracy Torme, to write a flashier, more provocative abduction story. Um, so like the the the documentary Fire in the Sky has actually been it's been Hollywoodized. So the better one to see is the the Travis documentary because that's a lot closer to the truth.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:14

And apparently Yeah, the Travis one's a documentary, the other one's a feature. Yeah. So it's not, it's not, it's not even a documentary either.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:21

Okay, I was under the impression they were both kind of documentaries.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:24

Um if they said it was a documentary, they lied.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:28

Do you know that do you know that he sponsors a UFO conference in Arizona called the Skyfire Summit?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:33

I did not know that. I would have got that one wrong on Jeopardy.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:37

I'm pretty sure you should. I should go.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:38

Why haven't I gone there then?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:39

You need to get us onto the like VIP guest list for that. Make that happen. I might just make it happen. Um, in the days following Walton's UFO claim, the National Inquirer um awarded Walton and his co-workers a $5,000 prize for the best UFO case of the year. Who knew that they gave out prizes for that? You could best UFO case of the year prize from the National Inquirer. National Inquirer is a bit of a tabloid, though, isn't it? Like a tab rag. It is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:06

I thought they did they not reject the money? I thought they rejected the money.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:09

I'm getting there. Um after they after they allegedly passed their polygraph tests administered by the inquirer and the aerial phenomenon research organization, also known as APRA, Walton, his older brother, and his mother were described by the Navajo County Arizona Sheriff's Department as longtime students of the UFOs, of UFOs. Some Uphologists believe Walton was abducted by aliens. Uh UF UFologist Jim Ledwith said for five days the authorities thought he'd been murdered by his co-workers, and then he was returned. All the co-workers who were there who saw the spacecraft, they all took polygraph tests and they all passed except for one, which was inconclusive. And as you said, they rejected the prize money from the National Inquirer, which I think is very noble of them.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:53

Sorry for killing that freaking. That's okay. No, that's fine. That's gonna happen. Correction. I think they did not take the money. Because I thought that to me that gave more validity because at that age, like they were 19 and you know, like in their early 20s. I would take the money. You would take the money.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:08

I'd take the money.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:09

Especially at that time, 5,000 was way more than it is now. So I've got to be able to do that. The other thing that I thought was interesting is when you watch the not spoiler alert, but when you watch the documentary, is he said that initially he thought they were like experimenting on him or doing um, of course, I'm massively paraphrasing, or you the way it was more described before that they were doing bad things to him. What he thinks happened though, now that he's had time to process and he's older, he got into because he went over to see what the light was. He got into that ray of light and they accidentally hurt him. And so they took him up to mend him and bring him back in one piece.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:45

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:46

So he has more of a resolution that maybe because they could have just if they were gonna just experiment him on why bother bringing him back? Yeah, and but when he came back, he was he went to a payphone, he was like way skinnier, he was frightened, he didn't know what had happened, he had like hair growth, like you know, he was he had something happened to him dramatic, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:07

So can you imagine being on the aliens perspective of that where like you're just like kind of happily cruising above earth, and then you like shine your and you're oh shit, shit, Bob, shit, shit, quickly bring them up.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:18

We broke it. We broke one armadilla. God damn it.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:24

Well, it gives the butterfly effect some credibility though, because maybe if they changed one thing, that would change everything. You never know how one person's life how that could have impacted it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:35

Sure, sure. But I was just I was just thinking, I was just thinking of it from the aliens perspective, like you know, when you're driving along and like kind of like I've had it when I was driving over long distances in South Africa, you get these tiny little birds that sit in the black tar because the tar is warm, but they don't move. And you I mean, you know, naturally you think if my car is hurtling towards you, little bird, at 180 kilometers an hour, you're going to fly away before I get there. Some birds, let me tell you, do not, and they end up in your grill. Um, and there were so many birds when I was I was driving to a film festival in South Africa, and I remember having to stop and just pick bird carcasses out of my grill because I was like, come on. And but I remember how bad I felt about those little birds. Even even though it was the stupid little, I mean, you got wings, fly away, for fuck's sake. Don't just wait for my car to hit you. Um, and I so I kind of I was kind of empathizing with the alien situation there with Travis, where they're just kind of cruising along Earth, you know, and then suddenly you've got a broken human under your fucking UFO and you're like, oh, for fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:33

This is gonna take us another five days.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:36

Beam him up, we gotta fix another one. God damn it. Why does it happen?

unknown 1:16:45

God damn it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:46

Yeah, stupid humans. That's what you need on the world.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:49

You know, you know, who knows? I I guess they took him into hypnosis and all kinds of things, and who knows what the real story is because of course he lost so much of it. But I I do like even if it just helps him sleep better at night to think that that's what happened. I mean, it is kind of the idea that they brought back a whole human being if they were just in it for experimenting, doesn't really make a lot of sense. I I I like his his his latest conclusion. I think that one's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:13

Put a positive spin, put a positive spin on it.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:15

I don't want to think that all the aliens are nice. I really want to believe that.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:18

Good on you, Travis, uh figuring it out. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:23

Making it a nicer place for all of us to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:26

So what else do we know about the Pleiadians then? What else do we know? You're having a choke?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:33

Ah, um, what else do we know about the Pleiadians? Um that we've both been told that we are them. Oh yeah, we know that. I thought this is not this is not the oh yeah, it was I right. I just wanted to bring it back since again, we're going through so many great things about them. I want to make sure everyone knows um that we identify 100%. No, uh, the human zoo, do you know about that theory?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:57

I do not know about that. Um, I think I might I might be able to guess what it is, but I'm not going to. I could go, I could No, guess, guess. All right. So I think the human zoo might be something to do with like the fact that um, number one, that we're genetic manipulation. Um, and the that things like the abduction experience and the cattle mutilations and things like that, is that they're collecting our DNA so that should anything happen to our species, that they'd be able to kind of like Noah's arc us, that they'll be like, you know, our DNA will be in storage somewhere and they can repopulate the planet should anything go wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:31

No, but I'm writing that down as the Noah's Ark theory because that's genius. And it's gonna make this one seem pale in comparison now. That's a really good theory. They they so every two years, the Medi International, and I guess it stands for messaging extraterrestrial intelligence, they meet at a one-day workshop in Paris and they go through like all of these questions. What is life from an extraterrestrial perspective? So, some of the questions they ask are Are extraterrestrials staying silent out of concern of how contact would impact humanity, which is kind of what we've all talked about. Uh, should we send in uh international radio messages to nearby stars to signal humanity's interest in joining the galactic club? Um, will extraterrestrial intelligence be similar to humans? Um, did life get to Earth from somewhere else in the galaxy, or do we live in a gal in a galactic zoo? So some people think I I've thought before maybe we're just a big TV show for them, but it's that same kind of concept that they're hands off, but they're just watching us as if we're some sort of zoo. That there has been some genetic mutation, but they're just watching us and and they don't interfere because we're entertainment.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:48

Um or like something like a social experiment, you know, like exactly if you look at like things like The Lord of the Flies, um, the movie The Lord of the Flies or the book The Lord of the Flies, where there's a kid's all and what happens to like um social pecking orders and things like that when they're left to their own demises. There's also a very good um documentary, I think it's called like the world of girls or something along those lines. I'm not sure. Where basically they stick a whole lot of girls together and they're like, okay, here you go figure out society by yourselves. Um, but they're I mean, like you say, there could be it could be that either we're entertainment and they're kind of just sitting up there shaking.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:25

But they're protecting us as well, is part of the theory that they're protecting us, but we're entertainment.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:30

But you you you would you would protect anything that you're studying.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:33

Like if you're if if I protect my TV. Yeah, I protect my iPhone.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:37

But if you're studying something or if something has value, then you're going to protect from any harm from coming to it. So if we're like a social experiment or like a social, like an observation on sociology or something for them, and they see how you know, if you leave this bunch of monkeys to their own demises, what exactly is going to happen? Um, you know, that's what we implode. We do. Well, we're not exactly doing a very good job. But it's one of the like there, there are those, they are those theorists who say that like the humans or we've had many cycles on this planet already. Um and we've been here, and you know, I mean, this comes to think down to things like the Atlanteans who were here before and uh were very civilized and then they left or something happened to them and they got wiped out or whatever it might be. That it might just be these aliens saying, Okay, look, they fucked it up, push the button, or hey, these ones have done really they've reached like level 84 that you know there's nothing beyond that. Level level 85 is you leave the planet and we let you. Um, you know, it might be that we're like a repeated experiment just to see like if they manipulate the environment or the situation, where does it go? Like, you know, the last incantation or the last incarnation of our species, we ended up at as Atlanteans with perfect civilization and advanced technology and pyramids and sphinx and all those wonderful things. Um, these ones did well, so that that that set of conditions is very good. What if we play around with this and let's see what happens over there?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:01

And we're now the you know, the carnation of the entire premise of the good place.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:08

The good place. What's the good place?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:10

Yeah, that's where well I I don't want to give away too much of it, but uh girl dies and goes to heaven and heaven keeps changing. Okay. Difference to muli and things, and right. I I won't give away the big I won't give away the big spoiler. But you are describing exactly those things, how they change the circumstances to see how it will be.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:33

But it's I mean it's it's social experiments essentially, right? It's like we might just be a big fucking cosmic big brother episode for them, and they're all just sitting back shaking their heads at us, going, Who are we gonna vote off the island next?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:46

I guarantee you, you are their favorite channel.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:50

We we are the favorite channel.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:52

We are let's no, no, specifically you.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:55

They're like, let's turn on Xander. Turn on Xander, let's understand today. Somewhere out there, they're like, Oh, look, those ones have made a podcast. Oh adorable.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:05

Isn't that talking about the zoo experiment?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:08

Look, we might just get zapped. Figured it out.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:10

They cracked the code. Yeah, I was gonna say we might just get zapped with beams in a minute for figuring it out.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:16

We can't let this one air. They're too close to the story.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:20

Uh okay. Well, that's about all I've got to say about the Pleiadians and the Star Children. I don't know about you if you've got any more that you'd like to add.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:28

No, I think we've covered it pretty well. We've covered a lot. I do think I was I was trying to look it up. I was listening to you while you were talking, but I was also trying to because I remember reading about um David Bowie saying that he was Pleiadian, but I can't find it.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:45

I've also I've also read about that. We're gonna have a goo quick. David Bowie.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:48

See if you're better than I am, because I I I found what do alias celebrities, Shirley McLean, Jimi Hendrix, David Bowie, William Shatner, and Jackie Gleason have in common.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:58

They're all aliens. They're all aliens. Lady Gaga as well. Lady Gaga. All right, so I've got one here that says David Bowie is a real life space alien. No, seriously. Um so maybe that's maybe that's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:12

Yeah, but that one, but that one, I I did eyeball that one, and he's just saying that he's put it together with his music and stuff. He doesn't give us any real but I had read that that David Bowie had said he was an alien. And and also uh Tesla had said that he communicated with aliens as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:30

There are a lot of uh there was also, in fact, now that we're talking, now that we're like poking around in the history of people that have um had uh you know encounters, they even say that George Washington had an encounter with uh extraterrestrials, and I'm frantically trying to find where I saw that information.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:47

Really?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:48

Um, you do that. I'm gonna find David Bowie.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:51

All right. We'll both have a goo. We're having a goo live. Live live gooing. Live gooing. Where did I put that little tit bit of information?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:00

He did write a lot about stars and aliens and David Bowie, I mean, not George Washington.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:07

I don't remember George Washington last year. That's different.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:12

I could feel you glaring at me so wonderfully I definitely did read about it here somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:18

Wait, we'll have a look. Uh George Washington. George Washington Aliens.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:26

Also, loving the alien. Maybe it's just a lot of alien songs. Maybe. I swear I read it though.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:33

It might be. Um, I did, you know, while I was doing my research, I did come across something that mentioned George Washington is said to have um some kind of contact with aliens or has been in contact. Because obviously it tied in a lot with him being part of the Illuminati and the Freemasons as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:50

Um people that we love.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:55

We love them all. They all listen to the podcast. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. We're on a secret mission here from the Illuminati.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:01

You don't want to be on everyone's hit list. You're always trying to put us on everyone's hit list.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:06

Do not piss off the shadow governments. Illuminati. You know, well, I mean, if there's if there's any religions or cults or anything like that that are going to give a little bit of credit to Pleiadians and major world religions, it would be the Scientologists and their, you know, uh their crazy belief about us being ethereal beings um attached to or that we have these beings attached to us. And of course, the Heaven's Gate cult, they would fit in very nicely with this theory as well. Um they would. I can't find that little tidbit I had about George Washington. I don't know where I put it. I think we maybe we just make up things. No, I definitely remember reading this somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:50

Well, yeah, but I I remember reading about David Well, dude, I can't find it.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:54

This is no, so this is the thing is that somewhere out there, the the this goes back to the zoo theory that the aliens have said, okay, now they found that little bit of information. Now take it away and let's see what they do.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:06

Or like throwing bananas at the at the window.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:10

Banana, but they've got strings on them, so you know they're like teasing us with the banana, they're pulling it back, pulling it back. Um, there was definitely something somewhere on the internet about George Washington. There was somewhere on the internet.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:24

And David Bowie. And David Bowie.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:30

There have been a few different famous people who've had um encounters or or say they've had like encounters with uh extraterrestrials. Um anyway, okay. So we'll have to do a bit more poking around.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:42

Bit more poking.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:44

We'll have to do a bit more poking around and see what we can find at a later date. But we've got lots and lots of UFO kind of themed.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:50

Yeah, we'll we'll come back to it. We'll do our PS.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:53

We will.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:53

We will come back to it once we've had our butt if anyone's interested and they want to go to all of these channeled messages from the Pleiadians there. are a ton on YouTube and Google, etc. So they and they are interesting. And you know what I do like about a lot of except for the Grace. Most of the alien messages that come through, even if you if you don't buy into it, it's it's really all love and light and harmony. It's there's nothing it's nothing like uh sell your children and spend this much money to join our cult. Like it's it's just be better human beings, be nicer, love each other. So that I don't see any harm from it regardless of the source.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:32

It was it was also something that I came across in my research as well that the the beings from the Pleiadians or the Pleiadians from the Pleiades um they're they're like you said at the beginning they're kind of more in touch with like the um like love, compassion um and like healing energies all all all for the betterment of our species. Like they're here to protect us to help us advance. Whereas they say like the reptilians um are the the ones who are like here to manipulate politicians. Yeah and Queen Elizabeth they're here to manipulate and control us. So it's like it's almost as if like these different races um I I I I kind of think of them almost a little bit like having the devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other on the other one. But like on this on the kind of the devil side they're kind of manipulating us and see if they can drive us towards things like nuclear war and self-destruction. Whereas the Canadians on the other side saying like you don't have to do this. It doesn't have to be this way. If you you know there is a better way if you find in the elevate change your vibration. Change your vibrations yeah definitely all right so do we have any shout outs that you would like to do this week to David Bowie George Washington. You know he's listening and uh Linda to Linda oh yeah Linda Moltenhoe huge shout out I'm going to like absolutely shout out to Linda Moultonhoe for being one of the most amazing investigator journalists who covers this type of content. Like honestly if you've if you've not checked out Earthfiles whether it be on her YouTube channel or just www.earthfiles.com you are missing out um she does I mean she's got thousands and thousands of articles that she's specifically written and curated for the earthfiles she goes into things about cattle mutilations about ufos about abductions about oh goodness the list is so long crop circles crop circles I mean it the list is so long there is there isn't something she hasn't covered most fascinating interviews as well um we should totally get Linda on the show Linda do you want to come on the show sometime we'll see we'll see if we can we'll squeeze you in we'll squeeze you in Linda Raise your vibration and you can send her a psychic message. And also she loves cats so that puts her high up in my list of great people who like cats are generally more enlightened beings. So definitely I've been looking into getting a finger monkey what does that make me what the hell is that you have to look it up right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:00

Okay I'm gonna go the students were joking about getting me a fox.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:04

I didn't know you could own a fox and like those little foxes in Arizona and then we got off on this tangent about what we could own in Arizona I want a fingerable thing we we do get them in South Africa as well they're called mamazettes right a mama set oh are they I just called them a finger monkey they're mamma sets um they're actually really really aggressive little animals like they well they said they they were mischief makers but I was like how mischievous could they get if they're the size of your finger like I I could deal with that they're about like I the ones that I've seen they're about the size of like uh I'd say about the palm of my hand um right they're super super mischievous but they're also very very aggressive um they like they they'll scream at you they run at you they're when you encounter one they're actually as small as they are absolutely fucking terrifying little things because really you could they they move so quickly but that's where they they lull you into a false sense of security though.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:01

Oh man they see to those who are pure all things are pure that's why I just don't know they are super fast they're monkeys so they can get all over the place.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:12

They are very cute. There's no denying how cute they are but I've had a I had a weird encounter with one when I was a kid and I'm a little bit weary aliens to come to you but you know about the finger monkeys monkeys um okay so what happened um I we went on a camping trip and it was myself and uh it was my family and a friend of mine um in middle school had come along with us her name was Hazel um shout out to Hazel and um we we stopped along the way at some place for lunch and it was it was I remember it's like this random kind of hotel in the mountains somewhere in South Africa like nothing and nothing and nothing for miles and miles and miles. Boom hotel nothing nothing nothing nothing for miles and miles type of thing. And this hot this hotel had like a little tea garden and a restaurant and like chalets that you could stay in. We didn't stay overnight we just stopped with the food and they also had this um like little petting zoo or like a little like kind of and and a like an aver like a bird sanctuary that you could kind of walk through and we walked through we were having a look through and then you know goat and whatever the you know your regular type of petting zoo animals and then we went into the bird enclosure where it was all obviously fenced in um and you know like they had things to like contain all the birds from flying away and I believe I believe they take like rescue animals from the wild who've been injured or whatever or get hit by cars they end up at this place for rehabilitation as well. Anyway long story we were walking through this like um the Avery section where all the birds were and they told us that there were monkeys there as well they've got different types of monkeys squirrel monkeys baboons and these marmosettes and we got to this one section where a tree had uh you know an old tree a limb had fallen off and kind of broken one of the cages and of course being teenagers we ignored the warning not to go in that direction so off we went in that direction of course and it just happened to be the marmazette cage that had broken open and I remember looking in going oh I wonder what used to be in here and about 12 tiny little monkeys screaming and running towards me. So you know things things are very cute until there's 12 of them and then they are not cute anymore. I just wanted one I just wanted one yeah maybe maybe when they're by themselves they're much cuter but when in a group of 12 they're fucking terrifying little things that's an army that's an army wasn't it was a monkey army Dorothy would have known what to that's basically two hands and two fingers that's not a finger monkey anymore.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:34

That's not a finger monkey handfuls of monkeys there.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:38

Marmosets well all right I'll put that off my pet list I guess they are very cute though there's no denying it okay so my shout outs um I'm going to give a shout out uh to one of the Instagram users who've been doing a lot of help with like um posting about our content on their page um her name is Lex E L E X with a capital E and I'm just trying to frantically find uh the name of her her uh her user account on Instagram her user account on Instagram is called he said as he spoke installed very very slowly is called oh I can't find it now always when you're trying to find something why now Jenna Stone will sing you a song it's sorry it's Lexi E L E X I and then a capital E. And she is from octoberallyear.com and she travels around in uh the States and like finds all like haunted places places with very interesting history but she has been such an awesome supporter of our podcast um so massive thanks to her and just a general and just a general thank you to everybody out there who supports our podcast because like amazing we reached 2500 downloads this week by the way I don't know if you know yeah I I did see that I did see that back in amazing and on the listen notes app which is one of the podcast apps that you can find our podcast on we are listed in the top 10% of global podcasts. Top 10% baby 10% in global the whole world the whole world of all the millions and billions of podcasts in the whole world we are in the top 10% on listen notes that is exciting we are fucking hot shit right now let me tell you that is super team go team but like the team is not just us right it's all the zoners it's all the people it's all the people I'm clarifying I'm clarifying for the team I'm clarifying for the team okay okay okay but when we say go team we're not referring to Xander and Stone and just the two of us we're referring to all the people who listen to our podcast exactly literally could support us and share us and vote for us. Yeah could not do it without them could not do it without people um so a huge huge big thank you to our zoners zoners old and new you know like all the old zoners who've been with us from the beginning the diehard zoners both of them are still listening um and then thank you thank you Renee thank you mom and then to all the new zoners as well all the new people who've been uh joining in and listening to our podcast as well we welcome you with warm arms that felt weird when I said it we welcome you with warm arms delicious weirdos you have some good some good sentences going with my warm arms we welcome you with warm wet kisses I think I saw you say the other day big sloppy wet kisses no tongue because okay no tongue tongue tongue we're saving for 5,000 downloads yeah right you really have to work for the tongue yeah we don't just give it away here on Xander and Stone I think um I think we forgot to introduce your stone obviously we we did introduce ourselves but it's been so long ago you forgot you're Xander. I am yes and it was your birthday recently and so I have prepared I have prepared a little something for your birthday other than the gift has your UPS package arrived yet?

SPEAKER_04 1:38:07

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:08

Son of a bitch like I it's I'm dying I'm dying I'm dying for you to get your your gift from me because it's a very special one but I'm I I will say nothing. I don't want to spoil the surprise of it at all. I am dying to get it as well I've got a UPS tracking number but I'm reluctant to give it to you because it might list the contents of the package and then it'll ruin the surprise.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:28

No I I you know every day I'm just gonna come home waiting for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:31

I'll be uh great expectations like I really it's one of the but it's also one of those touch and go gifts you're like she might actually look at this and go like what really fuck um you know like I why um or you might be like okay I'll report back next week I hope you think it's amazing. Um if okay let's make a deal now if you don't think it's amazing we'll just never bring it up okay just never don't don't say anything about it um just never bring up the fact that I got your birthday guy okay I I can make that deal I know you well enough to know I I'm betting on you. Okay all right I think you'll like it though I think you'll like it though um I think you'll like it and then there's another little um something that I prepared for you here but of course now my phone is taking forever to load so we're just gonna have to maybe scrap that. Things are going technically things are slowly starting to fall apart on the Xander and Stone show right in this minute no matter all the preparation in the world yeah falling apart slider slider energy.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:33

It is there you go it's I was too excited about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:36

Could you just yeah could you could you just chill out if you could just tie it down a notch while we're waiting for that to happen. While I'm waiting for that to happen um do we have any housekeeping that you can think that we need to do other than of course we would like people to go to the show notes below and find the link to the podcast magazine because we want you to vote for us to be included on the top 50 uh podcasts with the podcast magazine. Also if any podcasters and we have loads of podcasters that we talk to um if you haven't checked out the podcast magazine yet you absolutely are missing out it is a super super cool publication they do a physical magazine but they also do an e-copy um they have loads of resources available for podcasters they've got the podcast top 50 every single month you want to get on that list great exposure um it's just in general an awesome awesome resource for podcasters so to all our podcast buddies out there who are listening to the show of which there are many um definitely check out podcast magazine and remember to vote for the people who gave you the tip off to go and check out podcast magazine which would be awesome which would be and then we have our exciting contest as well we do yes tell us about we do I will tell you about I wish they had like your face in that moment as well I would also I'm gonna go our exciting our exciting contest for the next three months whoever gets us the best guest the most noteworthy recognizable guest Xander will use his tongue with his wet sloppy kiss for you I will that is the prize with that is the prize I will kiss them with tongue with tongue it was something that I was thinking of as well we need to organize maybe a little bit of a giveaway of using tongue I was trying to come up with some different ways to use my tongue um I thought we should do something like a giveaway like uh you know because we've we've reached 2500 down right no I mean like some merchandise some merchandise or something like that so we need to organize a giveaway for our listeners um but we don't want to just give it away because that's just too easy.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:38

So we need to come up with that kind of yeah are we gonna three months three months best guest most recognizable okay and they can either have merchandise like a shirt or a bumper sticker or tongue from Xander okay you get the choice so you either get a bit of tongue from me or you can or he'll dance in his tutu for you know I mean I was gonna he loves that I was gonna do that anyway but um he'll do that one for free.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:07

He gives that one away all the time I'm not sure that's a real price that's a giveaway but yes okay so uh we're gonna do a giveaway we're gonna give away some merch um we'll give away a let them choose their favorite listener quote merch so you can have like a sneaky culty bastards t-shirt or something along those lines yeah um but yes so get us an awesome noteworthy noticeable guest get us Linda Malton fucking how um just get us a great noteworthy guest Dan Aykroyd Diane Aykroyd I would love to talk to Giorgio I'm not gonna try and say his name to Carlos or the guy from Ancient Aliens as well I knew what you're talking about I saw the hair on my head love him love his hair want to know what hairspray he uses um exactly okay so my last little special something something for you because it was your birthday is going to be and here's I hope it really works uh I really hope it works happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday dear stone happy birthday to you I thought I'd sing the happy birthday song for you that was a live that was live singing just so the people know I actually just sang that right now I actually beautiful it was beautiful you know I should have made you sing the um Jenna Stone song do it now damn I don't have the recording I don't have the backing track right now we'll do that in the future we'll do that once you once Disney released I just remembered when you did the birthday one I was like oh we do have the we do have this the stone song but I think um does Disney might take issue with me using their backtrack on that because had you not mentioned it was Disney they probably would never know they would have caught on um okay you've been in trouble with them before you're fine that was a fun experience that's another story for another time thank you so much for the birthday song that was you're welcome if I was hoping to pair it with your birthday gift but that's obviously going to be delivered by a UPS man within the next day or so I would say I will make him sing it too you make him sing it but like make him do it with some grandeur make a grandeur I'll say if it's not as good as Xander's you have to keep practicing do it again. Do it again cut you can be like cut I'm gonna need you to do it again this time let's take it from the top um all right so from me Xander and me stone if it's out there and it's weird we're gonna talk about it one day we're gonna get it right one day we'll see it right I'm usually the one that pauses I was trying to leap in this time it's okay let's try it one more time we're gonna try it one more time so for me Xander and me Stone if it's out there and it's weird we're gonna talk about it we're gonna talk about it so much we have accent issues you understand that I could do I could do the we're gonna talk about it we're gonna talk about it is that how I talk I hate when you do the American accent we're gonna talk about we hope you enjoyed today's episode if you want to reach out to us and tell us your story you can go and leave us a voice note on the Xanderstone website by following the link in the show notes below or you can email us on info at accesspodcast.com find us on Instagram at excesspodcast and on Twitter at Xanderstone 100